Squeezing with AQ/JJ/TT at the Micros

Posted 8 years ago

Never squeeze AQ or JJ or TT unless you are going to call a shove/shove over a 4bet.


I read this in Ryan Fees 6 Max Guide... Does this still apply at the micros seeing as players tend to GII with a tighter range PF? Would like to hear your thoughts
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Posted 8 years ago
I definitely think it's better than calling and finding myself in a multiway pot far too often.

Back when I started in 2005 everybody used to talk about how you can waste these hands because nobody stacks off worse, but as the years have gone by everybody has realised you make so much more money post flop compared to calling that it doesn't matter if you're forced to fold pre every now and then.

It's probably true that because we define our hand so much better by reraising that when we do get 4 bet and fold they're probably doing us a favour to some degree when we're dominated or way behind.
Posted 8 years ago
I'm fine with squeezing all of those. I'd still be pretty likely to stack of with JJ but TT and AQ become questionable. Is this from the super old 6max guide or is this something new? I think I read at least a little of the old one years ago!

I had a bit of the opposite experience as @Turlock when starting out. Micro cash games were insanely loose and people overplayed hands like AT AJ and any pair soooooo much that AQ JJ TT actually were a raise/get it in. Oh how times have changed.
Posted 8 years ago
@colly191091 I think that putting the emphasis on the idea of poker knowledge getting outdated fairly rapidly is more important than the question at hand (especially because @Komododragonjesus and @Turlock already did that). While Ryan Fee is still a great and relevant player his contribution to the poker community called "Ryan Fees 6 Max Guide" - not so much. It's probably still fine for the very beginners but there's no way around it - the book is old and it will contain a lot of outdated knowledge that's certainly not worth over-analysing. To avoid the problem in the future try to stick to reasonably recent materials or seek alternative sources of poker knowledge like database analysis, hand discussion etc.
Posted 8 years ago*
Thanks for the responses guys!

@MattVIP I agree that alternative sources of poker knowledge seem to be the go to method of study! This site has helped me a tonne, espcially the line check thread. But, unfortunately for me, I find the best way I learn overall strategy is reading books! Would love some up-to-date printed material but the market seems to have ran dry! Maybe all the PokerVIP pros can get together and produce a book eh? Cheeky I find it a lot easier to study when I have a set curriculum and plan
Posted 8 years ago
Hey,

it depends on the situation. I think a squeeze is very powerful because of more deadmoney in the pot and in most spots all this hands are squeeze > call, mabye call if a weak player is in the spot and the reg often play to honest postflop with the weak player in the pot, now calling has real value because we can realize our equity very well and can make good thin valubets.

If you work with a polarized strategy it is often better to call TT and JJ because mabye you squeeze to often if you start adding AQ TT JJ.

But think about ranges, if UTG raises and CO calls, you have TT on the Button, UTG will fold a lot of good equity, but he call better hands and hands with very good equity against TT, same for the CO, mabye TT is to call, but JJ is mabye close between call and squeeze. AQs is easy squeeze, good blocker, very nice if fold, okayish if called, meh if 4bet, I think you have to call against 4bet if you are IP, because pot odds and equity. AQo (against two regs) is easy fold pre first street or squeeze as exploit, because it is a very bad multiway hand. You only have some bluffcatch spots, the hand is often to strong to bluff and to weak to catch bluffs if not improved mw postflop.