thetallpaul

Pre is standard for me. Flop overbet is a bit odd. I probably would raise a normal bet but this gives me pause, plus no need to raise if he's going to bomb like that.

Turn. What would do that? Sets surely won't overbet, would Tx really? Confused.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: $11.50 (VPIP: 29.73, PFR: 24.32, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 38)
SB: $10.89 (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 20.83, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 25)
BB: $24.13 (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 23.53, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 20)
UTG: $12.93 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
MP: $9.75 (VPIP: 21.52, PFR: 16.36, 3Bet Preflop: 8.80, Hands: 333)
Hero (CO): $15.52

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Qd Qc
UTG raises to $0.40, fold, Hero calls $0.40, fold, fold, fold

Flop : ($0.95, 2 players) Jh Kc Qh
UTG bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn : ($3.95, 2 players) Ac
UTG bets $5.00, ?

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Probably good to go ahead and raise flop, especially if he has no ATo combos. Calling is reasonable though, especially with the extra stack depth.

Not really sure what he has on the turn either since it's not an orthodox line. Probably a Tx. Usually best to just assume that is the case and make the fold when we don't quite get the right implieds. If you felt he was sometimes bluffing it's a call though, especially given we still have boat outs. I would just fold and move on.

Well, this is a classic case of 'well I'd be happy to go broke in this spot 90-95% of the time, but one of the worst cards in the deck showed up on the turn'. Tx doesn't make that much of a sense in villain's range, but then again it's NL10 so you should almost always expect some random combos.

Why do you say that 'sets wouldn't over bet' or 'T wouldn't overbet'. I mean this is an unknown player and it's not the hand that' s overbetting, but the player.
We know not a single thing about him and although he might not overbet some things on the flop, we're really playing a guessing game on the turn.
He's probably just some guy on tilt or something and wants to make some big pots.

My line would just be to raise the flop. I want as much money in vs a pair+draw. Or draw etc. If you raise the flop and just get a call then you may get checked to on the turn and be able to check back. It's just a bad card anyway and for a bad price. I would fold as played.

I'd go with a flop raise. This is definitely a hand that's going incredible against most ranges and I'd want to get as much money in as quickly as possible. Then if he shoves, snapcall.

Turn is one of the uglier ones in the deck, though I don't think I'd be folding. His line doesn't really make sense with anything so I won't try to say he doesn't have any Tx. Seems like villain doesn't know what he's doing or just doesn't care and in both of those scenarios I don't plan on folding sets.

I like the call pre, without reads they call with worse QQ and AK versus UTG are fine to call.

Definitely raising the flop though. So many two pair combos out there as well as pair plus straight draws which won't fold. There's also the action killer effect if a 4 straight appears on the board.

As played turn is a bit rough. In game I think I would still call, but maybe we're not getting enough implieds and folding is better. I would definitely be checking villains river agg frequency to help me decide.

Normally I would be 3betting QQ preflop vs a single raiser bt vs the 4x UTG open I think I prefer calling here and under-repping our hand.

On this flop I feel like we should be raising. Villain can have a lot of hands that he can pay us with here that we have in extremely rough shape. AT and KK are somewhat possible but we still have decent equity vs the flopped straight so KK is the only really large concern.

On the turn when villain bets this large again I think I just sigh and fold. His line makes no sense at all, and my general rule of thumb is that when someones line makes no sense and they are overbetting they usually just somehow have it. It's unlikely to see many people taking the overbet bluff line on this type of board so I would expect to see some sort of T here very frequently.

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