i think its fold, if you got some flush draw with set its a call. i think you also can call with hand like QQKx which block straight.

I would check turn. Jc fills a lot of KTJx which people have here. Middle set on this board I think becomes a get to showdown. As played it becomes a question of whether you have ~4:1 on a call which you don't.

Yeah, the turn is kind of a nightmare card three-way so I don't think you have a value bet here anymore. As played it's close -ish given the SPR but following the same logic, it's hard for me to imagine you're ahead here very often.

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I dont think they raise many hands thats not str8 here. Maybe if he has like KK with FD but even that is unlikely imo. If we bet we need to fold bc we dont get the pot odds to call vs str8.

So if we need to bet/fold should we instead check?

For betting:

When we are UTG and have bet the flop we will have plenty of strong hands here that we can bet so we wont get bluffed.
We need lots of protection since its two flushdraws and many str8 cards can come on the river.
We dont want to cap ourselfs.


Against betting:
The turn hits everyones range and we wont push that much EQ.
It really sux to bet/fold this much equity when our outs are very likely to be to the nuts.

So we have some things thats talks for betting and some that talks against. So we have to think how we want to play our whole range.

If we bet all hands like this and better we will have a very weak range when we check. We wont be able to c/c many SD value hands and we wont have many strong hands on blank rivers if the turn checks trough.

I would also want to bet some weaker hands like AQyx for example before this hands since it has the same amount of EQ but need more protection and is harder to c/c.

So all in all. I would check

thx