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Sam:
Not very often, because I wouldn't be 3betting 56ss or A2ss as a "standard play"
It would be with the intention of either getting 2 or 3 streets of value, or bluff catching, or double barreling a lot of boards. That picture of your range doesn't compare your equity vs villains likely calling range. Granted, Ax does have a lot of reverse implied odds on a lot of A high boards but 56ss does too. You will also get to the river with waaaay too many hands that are now at the bottom of your range and should bluff with, like in this instance.
Turlock: How often with those hands do you c bet OOP then feel you can't bet for value against villain's range?
Not very often, because I wouldn't be 3betting 56ss or A2ss as a "standard play"
It would be with the intention of either getting 2 or 3 streets of value, or bluff catching, or double barreling a lot of boards. That picture of your range doesn't compare your equity vs villains likely calling range. Granted, Ax does have a lot of reverse implied odds on a lot of A high boards but 56ss does too. You will also get to the river with waaaay too many hands that are now at the bottom of your range and should bluff with, like in this instance.
Hey Sam
Why does 65s have a lot of reverse implied odds? The whole point of why people switched to 3 betting that hand type OOP was for the purpose of making the hand easier to play. There shouldn't be a massive problem with flush over flush in a reraised pot situation.
If you're 3 betting high card hands OOP you're going to run into kicker problems a lot against villains who defend a tight range by calling. And if you're playing micro/small stakes is bluff catching going to be responsible for much in the way of EV? It must be pretty close still if we're talking about 3 betting late position opens.
In a 6 max game this would be my defending range from BB vs a x3bb UTG open. I'm interested to see how you guys would adjust your 3 betting range vs a tighter open.
