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Posted 8 years ago

Guys here's a hand I have a problem with played on Unibet, sorry about the format this is the only way I can take hands from there.

Basically I think a big part of his range beats me on this river. Every option here seems pretty bad. What're your guys' oponions?
Pot is a bit smaller than I wrote down on every street because of rake.

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Posted 8 years ago
For me this is a standard bet bet shove. I don't really see too much beating us asides from a rivered JJ. The only 9x combo they have is 99 which is one combo. Don't see myself ever checking or folding the river, would be shoving for value as it appears from the HH that it's button vs blind.
Posted 8 years ago
Without further information I'd go broke here and not blink, just shoving river, I wouldn't try to induce by going in small or anything else fancy, just go with it imo.
Posted 8 years ago
I agree. While I might not discount every 9x given the limit this is still a relatively easy bet/bet/bet line.
Posted 8 years ago
Shoving river looks best to me. Players hate to give you credit for anything on paired boards, and you'll get hero called by small pocket pairs frequently enough to make this a simple enough value shove.

JJ is the only worry but it's only 3 combos, nothing to worry about, and as the other guys said 9x shouldn't be in his range too much.
Posted 8 years ago
I have a feeling I'm the only person who's noticed the flush coming in on the river so far.

That puts a significant amount of hands ahead of KK on this river when you don't hold the Kh. AK, AQ, AT, KQ, KT, QT are all possible flushes. Then there's 10 combos of full houses/quads and let's say 2 combos of 9x so that's something like 18 combos you're behind.

What do you get value from? QQ, TT, 88, 77, 66? So that's 30 combos if he calls all of them, maybe as little as 12 or 6 if he's calling tight.

I guess it's player dependent. If he's tight then I wouldn't be shoving river.
Posted 8 years ago
Guys thank you for your responses and opinions. I agree with KDJ though. I did shove ingame due to a lack of a timbank to think it through but upon reviewing it offtable found that I had about 30% (my approximation of his range) equity against his range on the river.

With the flush draw hitting i'm beat pretty much always if he calls a shove so I was wondering if a small bet-fold would be better. A check-fold seems too weak and exploitable even by a tight range although it might not be that huge of a problem on 10NL since I don't expect many people to turn their pairs into a bluff.