10NL KQo Anon

Posted 8 years ago

So I feel like kind of dumbass on this hand but maybe i am not. It brings up a challenge I have with absolute hand strength vs relative hand strength that I will post in a different thread in theory.

Basically I flop pretty good and already kind of have my mind made up before he bets that this is gii. I stopped for a moment and thought about it before calling flop bet. They have 3 combos of TT, 1 KK and 1 QQ as have blockers and 16 of AJ that have me beat, so I thought about calling flop and folding turn but my preflop mind making process thwarted that. After the hand I realized that maybe he could do this with 6 combos of AA, and maybe, maybe 8 or so combos of AK and I don't know maybe some NFD, but not sure he does on this board, but then again maybe he doesn't do this with TT either or AA, I really don't know seems close now, but still think its a fold. I call it and obviously question it.

Anon so no real stats on this guy, but your typical weaker player on 10NL BV


Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter
$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem Prima
5 Players

Blinds$0.05/$0.105
UTG Player 1 $10.10
CO Player 3 $10.91
DHero $14.04
SB Player 5 $10
BB Player 6 $10
Preflop
5$0.15Hero is BTNKQ
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, Player 5 calls $0.20, Player 6 raises to $1, Hero calls$0.75, Player 5 calls $0.75
Flop
3$2.50KQT
Player 5 checks, Player 6 bets $2, Hero calls$2, Player folds
Turn
2$6.507
Player 6 goes all-in $7, Hero calls$7
River
2$20.50, 1 all-in 9
Final Pot$20.50
Hero shows KQ
Player 6 shows JA

Player 6 wins $20.70 (net +$10.70)
Hero lost$9.75
Player 5 lost $0.75

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Posted 8 years ago
Ok I'll give this a go before I go to bed.

Preflop I actually like a fold, I just think KQo isn't great vs a 3bet, but especially as we'll probably end up multi-way which is worse for this hand.

Flop... yaaaaay.... errrr, Hmmm. Kinda love it and hate it. I think if we GII then it must be on the flop. I mean it depends on what you think of the player but you said weaker (not sure really how you mean it), but AA, KT, QT, AK are possible although we block a lot of it. I just don't think a reg shoves them on the turn. A weaker player? Yeah they may well do, and if I thought they weren't that great then I'd raise back and try to GII on flop knowing they could show up with worse, and we actually have outs should he show TT or AJ over 2 streets. But most of the weaker players don't always top up and 3bet like this, so maybe a weaker reg is what you mean.

We don't block the draws... however AdKd actually isn't in horrible shape with any J, A or diamond. It kinda sucks but tough to fold in-game.
Posted 8 years ago
Preflop I don't mind a fold if you're unsure how wide villain is squeezing, but it can't be too bad.

I'm not keen on raising the flop without a better idea of villain's range because there's a lot of combos of nutted value hands he's likely to have. A lot of the J plus pair hands might be just overcalling pre.

Turn is tough. Is he really playing AK this way?

If he has the nut straight sets J9s AA and JJ then we have 31% which is not enough to call. I doubt he has enough draws to account for him maybe not playing AA and JJ this way when we only have 25%
Posted 8 years ago
I'd fold preflop most times, it'll only end up 3 handed and that will suck and a bit too strong for me to 4bet/fold.

Not a lot of point me rasiing the flop, I'd only get action from hands that have far too much equity for ours to handle I think.

Turn I fold as played, we'll be ahead about once a week and not enough equity to call it off anyway imo.

Posted 8 years ago
I've been thinking a ton about this hand. And it's a good thing as this is probably the worst flop for KQ 2pair going. I just think we don't get much action on this board... and if we do... we better be careful! I think if villain gives us more than 1 street of action in this particular spot then we often outright have the worst hand. And even on the turn... the worst of his holdings (if he continues barreling) have a lot of equity.

I don't think QT, KT or AKs are happy enough to keep up the aggro on the turn tbh. I think we just call the flop and see if villain slows down. Of course the turn is a blank but to a shove here I actually don't think we do great weirdly with top two after analyzing this.
Posted 8 years ago
Hard to fold pre on the button to a BB 3b. Maybe a 4b fold would be good here? Isolate it to 1 player which promotes or HU equity and live outs (aiming for top pair overs and a gutter - J93r etc), or play it multiway by calling it and playing it as a broadway connector .... to do this though we need 20:1 implied odds which you don't have.
Posted 8 years ago
I think I can't fold KQ to a squeeze without some reads he is a nit. I'd call the flop and fold the turn to a jam if I was on my A game. Anything but A game then 'I haz too pears' means I raise and get stacked by JJ, AJ, KK or QQ or some rando J9s. Best case he has AdKd or something. Nothing you crush to balance the times you are crushed.