45s - stuff dreams are made of...........wet dreams

Posted 8 years ago

In all seriousness fine as played?? As I'm really not sure! Should I be squeezing pre or am I fine to take my cheap flop with a good multi way hand! I really liked my lead but then I thought that I'm only flipping against overpairs and even behind better flush draws!

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Posted 8 years ago*
Call pre seems fine.

I'd be concerned about sets more than overpairs but sometimes they show up with it. Either that or as you mentioned... bigger flushes.

But can we fold here? It seems a pretty close spot really. It's amazing he shows up with what he does but maybe his raise size telegraphed it a little.
I think the idea here that I've heard talked about is basically do we need to get ourselves in possible flippy spots versus fish like this? When a lot of their range can actually be bad for our hand. It's an interesting hand really because we obviously have an OESD, FD and gutshot straight flush draw. His hands often consist of better FD's and sets mainly I'd say or a flopped 68. Usually an OESFD is amazing, but with ours being so low and also crushed by all other FD's then do you think we have to rethink things a little here?

Overall as I said, seems a close spot and maybe them raising so big means weaker hand. So it can never be "bad" here of course. I'd say it's ok. I just think we ran into the absolute best scenario in this hand. So I'll let some others run the numbers vs the ranges.
Posted 8 years ago
If you think you can get 3 players to fold preflop to a big squeeze here then fair enough but it's not very likely I suspect - and then we have 5 high OOP multiway versus at least one range we've narrowed hugely and hitting an 8 high or lower flop doesn't happen often (think about 14% but not totally up on that stuff) and top pair wouldn't excite me then either, so it'd probably be check/fold time. We could also get 4bet of course, which would suck for our pretty holding.

So, not a fan of throwing chips out there preflop on the off-chance, a bit 'gambly' for nitty me, so call is good imo.

On that flop I can't see anything I'm in trouble against except maybe 9d7d specifically and if I'm worried about that I'm playing scared, so I'm shipping it a.s.a.p.! CoolLaugh

Just wondering (since I'm aggrotard here and never folding anyway) if I can check/raise a flop like this. It might be fun if CO is a bad reg and cbets everything as usual. I actually think we can play it just about any way we want to and the money goes in by the turn anyway for me.

Fun hand. Yes





Posted 8 years ago*
Good to just call pre. We close the action and get good odds.

Like the flop lead. Would make it bigger since when we donk here in a 4 way pot we are very strong and wants to build the pot.

Im not worried about the bigger FD's, like worst case scenario is he has nut FD and we still have 40% EQ. Dont think you have that much Fold equity but this hand just needs to be all in since its already so much money in the pot.

Donk, shove, bink Wink
Posted 8 years ago
Yep easy game Smile
Posted 7 years ago
Perfect hand to flat call with in a four way pot. Squeezing wouldn't be bad if it was a BTN open and SB called, but here calling is much better.

Flop donk is good. I would use the same sizing but can see how bigger might be better.

Once villain raises to such a big size we know he isn't folding, but we have so much equity against most of his range that shoving is the only play to make.