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Anonymous aggressive games adjustments?
•Edited 8 years ago
I play nl20 anonymous tables, no HUD as I shut it off for now. I don't get enough hands on opponents and things like F2CBet stats etc after 100-150 hands is just misleading.
So my problem is as the title suggests, agressive play preflop from opponenets right from the start.
I raise MP and get 3bet, I raise CO and get 3bet by a different opponent. They raise CO, I 3bet from BU, BB squeezes or CO 4bets. Note it's different players from differing positions but it's relentless, hand after hand sonot surprisingly hands don't go to showdown very often, compunding my insecurity.
I know I can be 'running into hands' a fair amount, but how to separate that obvious fact from being outplayed?
What I have noticed is that if I can get to showdown ( a rarer occurrance) - chk/chk ... chk/chk ... chk/chk then I do see some weak stuff like J7s 3betted me from CO v my MP raise and the only reason I'm in the pot still is because I called the 3bet OOP with say ATs just to see if I can find out what's going on. Maybe I should be 4betting more I don't know, but that route seems a bit too much for nl20 but I am here to be educated.
Ok, so, how to adjust in these games?
I could play IP and be really nitty OOP but then I get spotted too easily when I have it.
I cold sit out but that's no good if I want to beat the limit I have to beat these games to, they are quite common and everybody seems to turn up at once!
Maybe I could 'widen my value range' but I don't even know what means specifically because it isn't just playing looser is it.
Anyway, I hope you get the picture but please don't give me the standard, 'If they're 3betting 25% etc etc, because I don't know what the 3bet % is, just that they're all at it a lot - except the nit in seat 6 maybe
Oh, nearly forgot, they very often turn into calling stations and otherwise get passive postflop even IP so the skill level obviously isn't great postflop and even I can see it's because of wide ranges and trash being palyed preflop.
Also, the call 4bets IP as well.
Thanks for any help, these are really interesting games, just too hard for me.
So my problem is as the title suggests, agressive play preflop from opponenets right from the start.
I raise MP and get 3bet, I raise CO and get 3bet by a different opponent. They raise CO, I 3bet from BU, BB squeezes or CO 4bets. Note it's different players from differing positions but it's relentless, hand after hand sonot surprisingly hands don't go to showdown very often, compunding my insecurity.
I know I can be 'running into hands' a fair amount, but how to separate that obvious fact from being outplayed?
What I have noticed is that if I can get to showdown ( a rarer occurrance) - chk/chk ... chk/chk ... chk/chk then I do see some weak stuff like J7s 3betted me from CO v my MP raise and the only reason I'm in the pot still is because I called the 3bet OOP with say ATs just to see if I can find out what's going on. Maybe I should be 4betting more I don't know, but that route seems a bit too much for nl20 but I am here to be educated.
Ok, so, how to adjust in these games?
I could play IP and be really nitty OOP but then I get spotted too easily when I have it.
I cold sit out but that's no good if I want to beat the limit I have to beat these games to, they are quite common and everybody seems to turn up at once!
Maybe I could 'widen my value range' but I don't even know what means specifically because it isn't just playing looser is it.
Anyway, I hope you get the picture but please don't give me the standard, 'If they're 3betting 25% etc etc, because I don't know what the 3bet % is, just that they're all at it a lot - except the nit in seat 6 maybe
Oh, nearly forgot, they very often turn into calling stations and otherwise get passive postflop even IP so the skill level obviously isn't great postflop and even I can see it's because of wide ranges and trash being palyed preflop.
Also, the call 4bets IP as well.
Thanks for any help, these are really interesting games, just too hard for me.
@Jon-PokerVIP