Find Set-miners

Posted 8 years ago

i am trying to find a way to understand when someone trying to catch a set at the flop even with small PP.
Is the cold call 2Bet PR a useful addition to my HUD for that purpose;
hayatekirino

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Posted 8 years ago
No I do not believe so as the stat will never contain enough information as even over a 100k hand sample it is such a specific play that it won't ever happen enough to become correct as it won't go to showdown. Do you know what I mean?

Something like NoteCaddy might be worth looking into for this?
Posted 8 years ago
I suppose the closest thing to look at is cold call%. PP 22-TT is 4%, so if they aren't coldcalling much more than that, their range may be heavily weighted towards PP. But once you add in SC like 76s+, suited boradways and aces, etc, you'll find they're setmining less than half of the time.
Posted 8 years ago*
i don't understand what exactly want to tell.

For example someones cold call is 10%. you mean he calls with PP and SC and Aces and and... ;

if he has 4% then i must worry more for a set on flop?

Posted 8 years ago*
by the way Cycle i order the book you told me "Kill everyone" Smile
Posted 8 years ago
hayatekirino: by the way Cycle i order the book you told me "Kill everyone" :)

Great book. I'm reading it again this week in prep for the OPL.
Posted 8 years ago
hayatekirino: i don't understand what exactly want to tell.

For example someones cold call is 10%. you mean he calls with PP and SC and Aces and and... ;

if he has 4% then i must worry more for a set on flop?



Google "Pokerstrategy.com equilab", and d/l the program, it's free. Play around with it and you can see that % of hands small PP are, 4-5%. Then add in decent SC, Axs, broadways that people might call with (KTs, KJo, etc), and you then see the % goes up from 4 to 10 or more depending on how many hands you add to the range. It will let you visually see what kinds of hands someone who cold calls 10% might have, vs 4%.

I can't tell you someone who calls 10% their exact range, maybe they call J9s and 87o, or not J9s but 43s instead, who knows. But it lets you see you are up against a wide variety of hands. But a 5% call is perhaps almost always just PP and good Axs/AQo.
Posted 8 years ago
Ok thank you..I have equilab .now I understand what you mean.so there is no way expect observation for realise when someone may hit a set. I study a little just to see if I figure out something good.