NL20 8s8d

Posted 8 years ago

Anon v a whole table of loosey-goosey guys raising things like J2o and sun running; best table ever. Sun

So this was a misread.

I thought this guy was doing the usual with Ax with a heart draw or maybe even has it. This particular oponent does/has played draws like this.

Just wondering if there is a raise anywhere in this for me, especially on the flop. Problem of course is if vill ships he will (nearly) always have it in this game, they don't mess about.
Maybe on the river given my initial assumption?

I thought it was tricky and a little more interesting anyway because it's multiway. Versus the 'standard' reg types I would raise flop..

So, is this just a case of raise flop and go for it with top set? Might be a bit marginal imo, what do you think guys?
Obviously not folding on that development.

Thanks.

Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter
$0.10/$0.20 No Limit Holdem Prima
6 Players

Blinds 0.5BB/1BB6
UTG $97.5BB
UTG+1 $137.95BB
CO $89.5BB
DHero $105.6BB
SB $141.7BB
BB $131.25BB
Preflop
6$1.5BBHero is BTN88
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to 3BB, 1 fold, Hero calls3BB, SB calls 2.5BB, BB calls 2BB
Flop
4$12BB864
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets 6BB, Hero calls6BB, SB folds, BB folds
Turn
2$24BBQ
UTG+1 bets 12BB, Hero calls12BB
River
2$48BBA
UTG+1 bets 24BB, (Hero)?

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Posted 8 years ago
Think a raise on the flop is a must. They are never folding worse sets, two pairs or any kind of pair + draw. If they flopped a set then GG but we have re-draws and there's a good chance to stack worse now given how bad the players are from your notes.

As played don't think we can do much other than just call the river, don't like shoving as they'll now fold everything but flushes, perhaps they'll call with 66/44.
Posted 8 years ago
I'm raising flop too I think. Overpairs and draws, 66, 44 etc could pay you off and if 4th heart comes your hating life. If he flopped the flush fine you've still got decent equity. As played I just call. If it had checked round on the flop I might be tempted to minraise to target Ax with a heart that rivered some value and might be tempted to call but its probably too thin. As played vs triple, it looks a bit too much like value, and I doubt any of that, which you beat can call a raise so just iso yourself vs flushes.
Posted 8 years ago
Yep, sometimes I think I should do something and don't anyway, why that is I have yet to fathom out. Probably lack of confidence in the moment.

Thanks guys.
Posted 8 years ago
Probably raise here just because the flop is 4-way. Not mandatory to raise these hands in HU situations at the lower limits due to the non-aggressive dynamic, but it still remains a reasonable option. Anyway, his sizing is pretty small on the flop and we are risking giving way too much free equity with a call.
Posted 8 years ago
I think you're answering your own questions when you say it's a table full of people opening J2o. Any chance that people are going to pay off with a bare heart or an overpair while putting you on a draw and it's a crime not to take advantage.

As played I can see only 6 combos or worse sets that will pay if you raise the river. AA QQ makes sense for villain plus all the made flushes so calling should be an easy choice.