AsTs

Posted 8 years ago

Standard tables all tag-regs. Emo

Flop: My opponent is usually 'capped' according to the mighty w34z4l but does have position, which means if I cbet he will float a lot.

My plan was to cbet enough to shove the turn but I got busy on another table and blew it - what is that bet meant to be anyway!? Blush

Turn: Is an overbet still viable now I messed up? Seems a bit thin expecting worse to call and I have the world in my favour. Too aggro and just go for a bet/call it off?

Thanks.

Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter
$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem Prima
4 Players

Blinds 0.5BB/1BB4
CO $104.6BB
D $100BB
SB $109.9BB
BBHero $101.5BB
Preflop
4$1.5BBHero is BBAT
CO raises to 3BB, BTN calls 3BB, 1 fold, Hero raises to 12.5BB, CO folds, BTN calls 10.5BB
Flop
2$30.5BB689
Hero bets13.5BB, BTN calls 13.5BB
Turn
2$57.5BB2
Hero goes all-in74.5BB, BTN folds
Final Pot $132BB
Hero wins$130BB (net +$29.5BB)
CO lost $3BB
BTN lost $24BB
Turlock

Last Post 8 years ago by

Turlock

6

Posts

2,905

Views

Copy post URL
https://www.pokervip.com/thread/view?forum=poker-strategy&slug=asts&nav=578dd3a6d390432d128b4575
0
Posted 8 years ago
I'm not a fan of the turn shove as I don't expect over pairs to fold as the turn changed nothing. Also, if you had KK-AA here I don't think you would over shove, you'd make it around 50-70% to get calls from worse and shove river.

Check-raising the flop is nice with our hand too.
Posted 8 years ago
Ye I think in hindsight the chk/r might have been more fun.

Thanks as ever. Smile
Posted 8 years ago
Given stack sizes on the turn I think a check raise would likely just price him in . I'd have thought BTN would 3b JJ+ pre so the only overpair he can reasonably have here is TT which you block. I like the shove.
Posted 8 years ago
Harvie: I'm not a fan of the turn shove as I don't expect over pairs to fold as the turn changed nothing. Also, if you had KK-AA here I don't think you would over shove, you'd make it around 50-70% to get calls from worse and shove river.

Check-raising the flop is nice with our hand too.


This first argument doesn't really make sense. If you don't shove ATs here since overpairs won't fold then you should be shoving KK+! If you don't want to shove KK+ on the turn since you won't get called from worse then you should shove ATs because you have fold equity!

To be honest, this hand is really hard to screw up, and I don't think you did. I'm completely fine with the turn shove but I agree it would have been better if you set up the sizings correctly. I would also be fine with a flop x/r at some frequency. I would definitely not like a turn x/r given how much money there is behind.
Posted 8 years ago
So, it was so hard to screw up even I got it right! Thanks for the vote of confidence anyway! Rolling on the floor laughing

Thanks as always everybody, good stuff yet again.
Posted 8 years ago
I like this line.
I think I personally go a little bigger Pre and on the Flop which sets up less of an over-shove. I think that is less polarising and you can do it with more of your range in theory but as Komodo says: If you're shoving with ATss, KK+ has to be in the balance too, even 9x w/ equity.
Posted 8 years ago
I don't mind this at all.

By betting small on the flop you keep his range a little wider than otherwise giving you increased fold equity on the turn. On the topic of KK+, I would be making it big on the flop to deliberately offer better odds on the turn encouraging more calls from worse hands.