Grocker6

I have a question. in a 4 bet pot when I get action here is always QQ right?

Player 6(SB) $8.24 - VP:27 PFR:27 AF:8.0 W:14|0 STL:0|33 3B:29|50 CB:67| N:-2.44 Hands:33
Player 1(BB) $10 - VP:29 PFR:29 AF:1.0 W:0| STL:0| 3B:67| CB:0| N:-1.90 Hands:7
Me(UTG) $10
Player 3(MP) $27.10 - VP:24 PFR:18 AF:1.3 W:33|100 STL:30|50 3B:7|0 CB:50|25 N:17.93 Hands:33
Player 4(CO) $15.78 - VP:45 PFR:3 AF:1.7 W:8|100 STL:13|50 3B:0|100 CB:|50 N:1.27 Hands:33
Player 5(BTN) $10 - VP:21 PFR:18 AF:4.0 W:0| STL:40|100 3B:0|50 CB:100| N:-0.80 Hands:33

Pre Flop: Me(UTG) with [Kc,Kd]
Me(UTG) raises 0.30,
Player 3(MP) raises 0.90,
Player 4(CO) folds,
Player 5(BTN) folds,
Player 6(SB) folds,
Player 1(BB) folds,
Me(UTG) raises 1.90,
Player 3(MP) calls 1.30

Flop: (2h,6d,Qh)(2 players)
Me(EP) bets 1.20,
Player 3(LP) raises 4.65,
Me?

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I cant fold here ,youre 1/3 cbet is great for him to sometimes raise some random so ship it.

Yeah, that's generally the idea, but I just wonder what people think of these boards in 4 bet pots with KK.
He did turn over QQ after I shipped. And I'm just wondering if this is a specific spot to look out for.
Not to be results orientated, but Q high boards specifically when given action.
I know the bet can induce, but against certain player types is there any time that this can be a fold?

33hands is so small sample that here u have to play it like KK

I recently have noticed a lot of crap in 4bet pots ,both regs and recs so....still feels like u should be playing it like KK
dont worry ,u`ll forget this hand in a few days

You got your utg open 3betted/called 4b, and your cb raised. without more info, i'd fold, don't see him doing that w/ AQ, JJ-, drawy hands (you gave him a nice price to call w/ this ones) too often.

I think this is a weird hand because he should be just calling here with both his QQ to keep your bluffs in and with AA (if he sometimes just flats the 4bet pre) and call with his AKhh and AJhh if he sometimes has it in this spot because he's getting a very good price to call with here. But if I do see a raise I'm gonna suspect it's AA or QQ afraid of a flush coming on the turn because I think most players will just take their good pot odds with flush draws (I know there's not many combos of those). So you can find a fold here depening on your opinion on the opponent and I don't think it would be a bad fold honestly.

Think your 4bet is too small, I'd make it more like 2.50 but apart from that, cooler time imo.
It's hard in game to think of folding especially at limits like nl micro.
I suppose if I'm on top of my game and knew the villain I could possibly make a nitty fold, but not after 33 hands.

Well I just made my 4 bet around a usual 2.3 or so. Seems normal.
I don't know. There's specific spots like this where I seem to call out loud the villains hands and always be right, but as you say. It's supposed to be a jam.
But I find my gut right a lot either way, maybe from past experience. But obviously a lot of players I'm not worried.

Hi guys

In my experience when you see this line at nl10 you can pretty much make an exploitative fold especially on full ring tables. NL50 and higher I would not be able to find to fold button but in this particular situation I think we can just toss it since his line and population tendencies suggest he has AA or QQ.

GL

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