NL10z KK

Posted 8 years ago

Pre is standard, BB flats which is slightly odd. Then he pots flop into UTG opener who called a 3bet and me. Our range is super strong but he can have all sorts of speculative hands that are nutted and he is going for max value vs overpairs. Or total air. God knows what he calls pre and then pot donks 180bb deep.

I call because y'know, stuff.

Then 1/2 pots river like setting up for shove. Let him barrel off? Jam here and hope he has spade draw, AK or QQ and is just overvaluing his hand? Give it up to avoid paying off fish that flat OOP with 77 and binked?

No idea where I am at but I'm near the top of my range.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BTN): $18.23
SB: $10.00 (VPIP: 19.74, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 9.68, Hands: 76)
BB: $17.82 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
UTG: $15.48 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 21)
MP: $43.99 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
CO: $10.00 (VPIP: 9.52, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Kd Kh
UTG raises to $0.30, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.90, fold, BB calls $0.80, UTG calls $0.60

Flop : ($2.75, 3 players) 7s 4s 5h
BB bets $2.60, fold, Hero calls $2.60

Turn : ($7.95, 2 players) 4d
BB bets $3.80, ?
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Posted 8 years ago
Sucks that we are so deep.
If it was 100bb I'd just ship turn and expect to see a lot of 88-QQ stuff. But this deep idk really, probably call turn and fold to any decent size bet on river
Posted 8 years ago
Call and call any brick river. I always expect villain to have some combo draws or even just a bare draw here. I doubt this is ever sets enough as it is just too strong of a line to take and why would villain ever want to do that.
Posted 8 years ago
I'm glad you called the flop, a lot of guys would have raised but it bloats the pot too much.

I would call the turn too, I don't expect him to have 4x very often.

River is a tough spot. We never expect him to be bluffing if he fires again. You need to play around with Equilab to see if all the worse overpairs he has counteracts all the monsters, and then do the maths.

Posted 8 years ago
Yeah I may have been too weak here. I didn't really consider TT-QQ. If I put them in then I can call turn. I gave it up here vs unknown calling OOP and potting into 2 players with ranges that strong.
Posted 8 years ago
Flop is a call, turn is a call. ( We are just trying to show it down)
River you really have to decide based on his bet sizing and river card.
I mean there are some river cards that he will rarely bluff @, lets say river is a spade or an Ace for instance.
Or lets say he pots/shove it on the river we can fold too. Usually hands like QQ-88 arent tri-barreling so river isnt as tough as it seems.
Posted 8 years ago
What are your guys thoughts on this being AA from BB? Has anyone seen a line like this before from that? The issue is that we have no reads of course, but the cold call can either be 99/QQ or AA and then they wanna donk a wet looking flop.

I call twice and evaluate the river in general. Yeah us being deep in this spot isn't great, but the way you can look at it is... 100bb would we have shipped it by the turn? Probably, so call down the bet and evaluate his sizing on the river. I just don't think they will play it all the way vs another big stack without a nutted hand.