NL25-zoom, TT

Posted 8 years ago

Hand #3

Villains stats: I dunno if the stats should be used at all here. 17 and 12 hands.

Seat 1: Player1 ( $32.66 USD ) - VPIP: 47, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 3,0, Hands: 17
Seat 3: Player3 ( $21.26 USD ) - VPIP: 50, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 3,0, Hands: 12

Should I ever fold here? Well I did.


Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter
$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem PokerStars
6 Players

Blinds$0.10/$0.256
UTG Player4 $35.77
UTG+1Hero $30.52
CO Player6 $21.12
D Player1 $32.66
SB Player2 $18.19
BB Player3 $21.26
Preflop
6$0.35Hero is UTG+1TT
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Player1 calls $0.75, 1 fold, Player3 calls $0.50
Flop
3$2.35839
Player3 checks, Hero bets$1.68, Player1 raises to $4.48, Player3 folds, Hero folds
Final Pot$8.51

Player1 wins $11.05 (net +$5.82)
Player3 lost $0.75
Hero lost$2.43
Pwll

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Posted 8 years ago
I'm calling the flop against this player type, looks rather fishy and someone who can over play 9x or bluff with over cards. I feel if we are folding TT in this spot we're folding way too may hands which we should not against a fish.
Posted 8 years ago
He is raising after you cbet into a multi-way pot. Folding is good.

It's close-ish, but I think given that you possibly have a tendency to continue too frequently in these type of spots, then folding is probably the best advice.
Posted 8 years ago
@w34z3l are you folding this against this player type? I can understand if this was against a standard reg, but the guy seems rather fishy from the small sample, surely TT is a call here?
Posted 8 years ago
I usually fold here multiway and would defend heads up.

Even though though villain is definitely looking fishy already he looks on the passive side, and even fish tend to be more cautious when bluff raising in a multiway pot.

It's probably exploitable and I'm interested in what @w34z3l thinks about our fold to flop raise becoming too high if we fold all overpairs in this spot. Or maybe it won't be too high at all because of all the heads up raises we face.
Posted 8 years ago
We really can't make too many assumptions about this 'player type' after 17 hands! That is crazy. All we know is he maybe seem a bit loose and maybe could be a bit fishy with the gap between pfr and vpip. But then that doesn't give us much info does it.

Main thing is he raise a quite dry board multiway and player 1 can have any 88, 99 or 89 and even 33 as played.

We beat top pair and it's a bold guess to think that's what this guy is raising...
Posted 8 years ago
I agree with the fold but I'm always a bit curious afterwards! I used to be curious during hands like this and it cost me loads.

Thing is we beat A9 which is perfectly possible but that's about it. I'm not going into a guessing game after 17 hands trying to work out if villain is bluffing, it's rarely the case in these situations anyway.