NL10 JJ 3bet pot

Posted 8 years ago

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$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem PokerStars
5 Players

Blinds$0.05/$0.105
UTG MikeRu54 $4.38
COHero $11.19
D LuckyIgorRus $10.50
SB hunt26rus $10.81
BB ahmet420 $10.27
Preflop
5$0.15Hero is COJJ
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, ahmet420 raises to $1, Hero calls$0.70
Flop
2$2.059T2
ahmet420 bets $1, Hero calls$1
[divbox=#eeeeee]Turn
2$4.05T
ahmet420 bets $2.40, Hero ?


He is 21/9(103) 3bet 3 (1/35)
What do you think of my play so far an how to proceed from here?
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Posted 8 years ago
Ugly spot, villian seems really nitty. Calling preflop seems our only option but even that doesn't make me to happy. 4bet/fold just seems absurd and 4/bet call is way to light. I think folding to the 3bet is way to weak aswell. I honestly think I don't mind making an exploitative fold here on the flop, on this monotone board not holding a club ourselves our equity is going to be pretty terrible in general. Calling flop just sets us up for another 1/2 pot (which is what happens now) where we kind off feel like we can't fold but we simply have to IMO. I just think we're very rarely going to be good here, if it even goes to showdown in the first place.
Posted 8 years ago
These guys with a big gap between their VPIP and PFR are generally passive. He's also 3 betting exclusively for value it seems.

Flop call seems standard with an overpair, even if we're not thrilled about it.

On the turn while I wouldn't expect him to have many Tx in his range for 3 betting, he's probably the type to check behind his AK AQ hands with a club draw, so I think it's a fold.
Posted 8 years ago
Simple flat call and then call any brick on river

This is not a bad turn card really and villain will be bombing into draws and even value betting worse sometimes.
Posted 8 years ago
Std call pre, with his stats nothing different to do there, u have stats on cbet flop? cbet turn?i think that would help, but with only those stats, for me clear fold on the turn. With the stats that u give, he seems passive, and not 3betting light clearly, so no reason for me to continue.
Posted 8 years ago
Interesting hand! I would also fold due to his stats too as previously mentioned by others.

Do you guys think we should play QQ the same in this spot?
Posted 8 years ago
Not a great spot on the flop given the monotone board. Usually fine to call the flop cbet and then give up vs the turn bet. Usually we call at least 2 with our overpairs, but the turn is bad enough that folding immediately makes sense.
Posted 8 years ago
Thanks guys!
Posted 8 years ago
Yeah I'm in the same boat as most everyone else. This guy's stats are extremely tight for 3Bets so I'd call pre and hope to spike a J to stack his KK+. I think this is a helpful hand for my game. I'm always up against really tight 3Bettors that pretty much barrel for value only, so a turn fold is good here. We call flop to let him cbet with all of his value and bluffs, but when he fires again I think super tight guys like these are only doing it with value hands. I would imagine we are doing this with QQ here too, unfortunately.
Posted 8 years ago
Calling flop and turn folding most rivers. I think we have enough 10x boats, and flushes to defend with. However, i can see an argument for folding turn although its not my standard play i never say never.
Posted 8 years ago
Generally call turn fold riv. Depends on our opponent though. If his range is narrow and he's passive then this is an easy fold. If he's the opposite then call as he can have draws here.