5NLz whale 3bet

Posted 8 years ago

Would you have called

His stats over only 7 hands: 86/86/oo

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$0.02/$0.05Zoom No Limit Holdem PokerStars
6 Players

Blinds $0.02/$0.056
UTG PeaceDuuuke $1.61
UTG+1Hero $6.79
CO pew_pew100 $19.76
D Fishi1987 $5.07
SB LadyLinda111 $7.36
BB dumpassos $5.07
Preflop
6$0.07Hero is UTG+1QJ
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.15, 2 folds, LadyLinda111 raises to $0.60, 1 fold, Hero folds
Final Pot $0.80
LadyLinda111 wins $0.80 (net +$0.20)
Hero lost$0.15
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Posted 8 years ago
This stats are not reliable in such small sample.He might be Tight regular as well but I think QJs should be in our defending range here.If he's whale I'm more happy to defend QJs.Size little bit weird but we're little bit deep so that's ok.If you believe he's whale defend wide and call down light.
Posted 8 years ago
7 hands Smile
QJs easy fold MPv3B
Posted 8 years ago
Hmm, the answers are both different. Think in the long run it is +EV to drop the hand, but still in doubt...
Posted 8 years ago
I don't play zoom to be honest.So I don't know the dynamics.This hand is easy defend for me against population at regular tables.Better to listen people who play zoom or experience yourself Smile
Posted 8 years ago
Yeah, you don't have many reads on people, and with zoom they can drop any marginal card very fast and move on. In the little experience i have, an Ace is the max for many players, and they keep betting with it.
Posted 8 years ago
Again as I said in the pocket 66's thread, don't worry yourself over stats over tiny hand amounts. Anyone can show up with these stats over 6 hands. Therefore we don't know he's a whale at all.

Technically this is a fold looking at the positions, also he went 4x which kinda cements the fact.

Vs an ACTUAL certified whale and being a bit deeper you could call for sure.
Posted 8 years ago
As mentioned already, unless you have seen something where villain has gotten to showdown with absolute nonsense trying to infer information after 7 hands is a recipe for disaster. I've played 80 hands before with a VPIP of 3%, I've also played 80 hands before with a VPIP of 70+%, 7 hands does not account for anything.

This hand seems like a reasonably trivial fold, if we had more reliable information that villain was an utter whale there would be an argument for continuing when stacks are a little deep but with this information in front of us it's a fold. (There are also villains where it makes for a great 4bet bluff hand too)
Posted 8 years ago
With sample sizes like this I would still be ignoring it almost completely. As has already been said we can all run super tight or loose over even 100 hands.

Just stick to your default strategy as if he's a total unknown until there's a real pattern starting to emerge.

This all applies to a standard 3 bet size too, in this case with him making it 4x I wouldn't hesitate to muck.