NL50, AA, 3bet pot deeeeep

Posted 8 years ago

Villain is 25/19, BU Fv3bet 55, fold vs cbet 3bet pot flop: 29 (7) turn: 0 (5).

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$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem 888
4 Players

Blinds$0.25/$0.504
CO Player7 $50
D Player1 $100.88
SB Player4 $37.47
BBHero $84.75
Preflop
4$0.75Hero is BBAA
1 fold, Player1 raises to $1.43, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5.50, Player1 calls $4.07
Flop
2$11.257Q2
Hero bets$6.25, Player1 calls $6.25
Turn
2$23.752
Hero bets$12.50, Player1 calls $12.50
River
2$48.75K
Hero bets$26.85, Player1 goes all-in $76.63, Hero calls$33.65
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Posted 8 years ago
That fact that he almost never folds would prob lead me to make a call, plus curiosity, even though there is literally no non-sets he could be expected to show up with. It's just that even in small sample you have, he just never folds in these spots, so I'd think there's at least a 25% chance he's making a move, even when most sane players would figure this is a bad spot to do it.

But I'm a donk on a month-long cooler, so there's that.

BTW I know in 3bet pots we don't have to bet as much post, but that's kinda predicated on if we want to gii. Since you're 170BB deep and against a guy who loves to call, I'd go bigger on every street. I also wouldn't hate a c/c otr, allowing him to bluff if he really is floating.
Posted 8 years ago
The 3bet pot spots are over a bit of a small sample, do his non-3bet pot folding frequencies look similar?

Ugly spot either way. I can see some players making this raise with KQ on the river which would make it a snapcall. I guess against someone I view as solid I'd fold though if villain is relatively unknown or seems loose I'd unhappily call it off.

I'm pretty sure if you fold aces here you're 100% overfolding to his raise, though that's only an issue if he has enough bluffs/worse value hands.
Posted 8 years ago
Yeah, kinda gross, villain can for sure have QQ and probbaly KK that he doesn't want to stack with preflop this deep. That being said... 6 combos mean we only need just over one combo of KQ or bluffs and I can see people doing this with KQ even by mistake enough to make it a call.

I'm guessing villain has KK and you threw up?
Posted 8 years ago
CrazyCookie: I'm guessing villain has KK and you threw up?


Nah, not that ugly - just 77 Smile

Thanks guys!
Posted 8 years ago
Tbh... I'm not sure his shove is that good! Like we call with AA QQ and KK... If we are to always fold KQ its maybe +EV as the rake cap means when he wins he wins a greater % of the pot...
Posted 8 years ago
Guess 77 makes sense although does anyone not think that is too thin of a jam?
Posted 8 years ago
StratoMan: Guess 77 makes sense although does anyone not think that is too thin of a jam?


Aye what I said Smile
Posted 8 years ago
Well, I don't even 3bet KQ there, so I've got QQ, KK, or AA there like always. So 6 combos he beats, and 6 combos he lose, therefore he's also in a kinda meh situation. If he believes I can have KQ and call off, then jam is good. But all in all, jam is not bad if I'm calling AA.
Posted 8 years ago
If he has this in his range thennnnn the AA call becomes closer of course...
Posted 8 years ago
Bet, bet, bet/fold looks good. Not 100% sure what's happening with his 3bet pot stats, but we really need something a bit more concrete before it becomes correct to bet/call AA on the river. Ideally we'd need some stuff like history where he had double floated and bluff-raised river, even if it's just one hand. Most guys at the limit are not capable of raising any worse hand here, including bluffs.