Grocker6

This is a spot that I was just wondering on the best play, it seems a bit close to me between a call or raise.
We have a gutshot and flush draws of course, however if opponent had KJ then this could be bad for us.
Our FD is also not to the nuts so is this just supposed to be a call and no raise? Although we don't see KJ too much so if we raise as bluff then maybe we have to call off with 48% equity vs at least AQ.

(BTW I don't usually play J8s vs the 3bet, but it was smaller 3bet than I normally see vs aggro opponent)

kostasgate4(SB) $10 - VP:24 PFR:18 AF:0.8 W:43|33 STL:47|64 3B:7|100 CB:50|67 N:-0.97 Hands:62
doubtless(BB) $10 - VP:25 PFR:21 AF:3.0 W:27|40 STL:48|76 3B:12|35 CB:79|33 N:-29.80
Me(BTN) $11.64
TSorVR(UTG) $10.84 - VP:18 PFR:14 AF:2.1 W:38|67 STL:47|85 3B:4|50 CB:38|40 N:14.41 Hands:492
Hasimba(MP) $31.02 - VP:32 PFR:26 AF:2.1 W:29|61 STL:59|67 3B:18|73 CB:55|42 N:-17.56 Hands:388
Hopeanuoli(CO) $10 - VP:22 PFR:17 AF:1.3 W:20|33 STL:63|61 3B:8|0 CB:71|50 N:-11.75 Hands:107

Pre Flop: Me(BTN) with [8,J]
TSorVR(UTG) folds,
Hasimba(MP) folds,
Hopeanuoli(CO) folds,
Me(BTN) raises 0.20,
kostasgate4(SB) folds,
doubtless(BB) raises 0.50,
Me(BTN) calls 0.40

Flop: (2,Q,10)(2 players)
Pot - 1.25
doubtless(BB) bets 1,
Me(BTN) ?

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25/21 doesn't look that aggro? I think I would raise my sets and 2 pair here so would raise my flush draws as well a fair bit. Slightly odd spot to be here with such a weak possible flush draw though in 3bet pot as normally I'd have K or A more. I think I'm tempted to put this in my calling range to protect that range a bit.

That may be garbage though. I might go away and do some range work on this next week as its a nice spot that I don't have any default view on. Can't do it this week though, my evenings are taken up replying to HH and playing Zoom for a few hundred hands just to get something I can post myself!

I would lean towards calling because of the extra three gutshot outs. It really sucks if he wants to get it in which we certainly don't, but we're pissed about wasting a decent draw.

I would add in draws like 54ss to my raising range. If he wants to get it in then we're never good and sometimes getting smashed by better draws. I would also raise the nut flush draw.

I'm with

@Turlock on this one. I'd lean towards calling especially in position.

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