New AA in NL4

Posted 7 years ago

ok obviously I have problems when I play AA

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$0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem iPoker
4 Players

Blinds$0.02/$0.044
COHero $4.04
D TheProvocator $5.14
SB Papasulke $4
BB natali9911 $4.06
Preflop
4$0.06Hero is COAA
Hero raises to $0.12, 1 fold, Papasulke raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls$0.28
Flop
2$0.82QJT
Papasulke bets $0.58, Hero calls$0.58
Turn
2$1.986
Papasulke bets $3.02, Hero folds
Final Pot$5

Papasulke wins $4.89 (net +$0.89)
Hero lost$0.98


yes ofcourse a 4bet would be a good thing to do but I decided against it. Is folding the turn to nitty? I mean we beat AQ, and KK. We are way behind AK, and flopped sets. Even against AcXc our equity sucks... what would you do?
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Posted 7 years ago
I think I just fold here too. He is effectively all in. Looks like he left a few cents behind how nice of him. Lets count combos. Combos you lose to: AK(8), QQ(3), JJ(3), TT(3), QJs(3) QTs(2) JTs(2) . So that is 24 that you are for sure beat by. Not sure if he has QJo or 66 being SBvCO but he could have some of those some percentage of the time. Not sure he would cbet 66, but he might, so we can just leave it at that.

Hands you beat. Hard to say: KK(3) AQ(6) KQs(3) and if he has KQo another 9 but not sure they would do this with all of them. Then he is going to have some AcXc, maybe 4 or 5 combos, not including the AcKc which is already accounted for, then maybe 1 or 2 other club combos.

I think you need close to 40% eq to call here and I doubt you have that. I think the other challenge that comes up is if you really believe he is going to overbet jam all of those value hands. You can get into leveling yourself here and its super hard to say and likewise with the hands you beat, would he really go bet/jam with KQ or AQ. He might cuz he doesnt think you have any AK AA KK or QQ cuz you didn't 4b, but he might.

I really don't know. Tough spot. Still think I might fold, but this is why the 4b pre is better. I guess you had a good reason and that reason could also change what combos he can have, maybe his 3b SBvCO is not as wide as I have(its just what i would have there) or maybe it is even wider and you opted to flat cuz he 3b bluffs a ton and you wanted him to spaz out with his bluffs, in which case this might be a call. Interested to hear other thoughts
Posted 7 years ago
Its funny. I actually ran some equities with this hand and there were some scenarios where you have the equity to call so I think it boils down to what you think he would 3b/bet/jam with. In certain scenarios you were totally crushed in others you have maybe 2% more equity than pot odds, so nothing that was hugely profitable unless the guy is a complete maniac.
Posted 7 years ago
Nothing wrong with getting into awkwards situations at micros to learn of course, I just prefer to keep it as simple as I can most times.
I would have less of a problem with this move if we knew more about our villain and what they were like postflop, not knowing just puts us into guessing game mode.
As played I would fold the turn and move on. I prefer 4bet preflop though, it gives my brain a simple decision; my brain likes that. Giggle
Posted 7 years ago
Do you have Flopzilla? This is the perfect type of hand to run through there. Any stats on the guy?
Posted 7 years ago
Hey Guys, great so see so much interest in this hand.

Villain: 30/25 over 438 hands, 3Bet 11 AG:0,7

This lack of any agression made it a fold for me. He would only play nutted hands like this. I guess that the range even shrinks down to AK, and QQ regarding his low agression. (my EQ is only 15%)

I also played around and included all NFDs as he could easily 3bet all suited Ax and even some suited Kx of clubs and 98c. Then the situation becomes a coinflip.

So obviously against a maniac you call and hope for the best. But against a nit this has to be a fold.

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