KQ 30nl

Posted 8 years ago

SB is a bad reg with a c/r of 10% in non 3bet pots. He has a SB 3b vs BTN of 8%. I felt this would be a good board for him to just barrel with a flush so a c/r and he might want to play it fast with 2 players in the pot and a flushdraw out there. However on the flip side my range looks pretty capped and there's only one draw to be worried about. So I don't think it makes for a good check raise but he's a bad reg and is probably thinking more about his hand than mine.
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$0.15/$0.30 No Limit Holdem 888
5 Players

Blinds$0.15/$0.305
UTG doctor128 $4.63
CO romkis1982 $22.80
D Razzviz $123.73
SB La_dindon $30
BBHero $47.25
Preflop
5$0.45Hero is BBKQ
2 folds, Razzviz raises to $0.60, La_dindon raises to $2.10, Hero calls$1.80, Razzviz calls $1.50
[divbox=#eeeeee]Flop
3$6.304K8
La_dindon checks, Hero bets$3.15, Razzviz folds, La_dindon raises to $9.45, Hero ?
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Posted 8 years ago
Hi archinator, definitely this hand is fold preflop, or you make 4bet here or fold because if you think that villain can have worse hand then you need make 4bet/fold(5-6$) for value if no, then you need make fold

GL!
Posted 8 years ago
Looks like a fold pre flop with KQ OOP, don't think we can play this hand profitable.

Flop is the reason I don't like to call with KQ OOP, even on Kxx and Qxx flops we are not loving life as they can very well have AK/AQ.

This deep and out of position If called there's a good chance we're going to be playing for stacks. I'd be folding here unless I have a read that they can make moves like this.
Posted 8 years ago
strong line to c-raise vs 2 people in 3bet pot. so jeah folding and not loving it.
I have seen quite a lot of coldcalling 3bets lately and as the games are ridiculously agro sometimes then maybe coldcalling some hands seems to be the way to go.
I dont think its always fold or 4bet for value ,same as u are calling 4bets with AA sometimes.
can u find some more spots where u coldcalled 3bets ? maybe have to take this in my arsenal
Posted 8 years ago
The problem with flatting this hand in the BB is that we can't be sure what the BU will do afterwards.
I think it's a fold on that basis alone preflop but I'm still a nit OOP. Smile
As played I'd fold the flop, that's a strong play from villain and I wouldn't want to play for stacks that deep with one pair/good kicker.
Posted 8 years ago
Personally, this is such a great spot to cold 4bet bluff. I would do that with KQ, KJ, AJ.
Would rather cold call with hands like TT,JJ or maybe QQ/AK.
Posted 8 years ago*
Hi guys,

This is a golden opportunity to make a cold 4b bluff with some of our suited broadways like QKs, QJs maybe even hands like A2-A5s.

I do not have a coldcallig range here, not sure if it's a problem? I mean, playing these spots postflop can be quite tricky and we are dominated so often that coldcalling just doesn't make sense to me.
Posted 8 years ago
TheVoice: Hi guys,

This is a golden opportunity to make a cold 4b bluff with some of our suited broadways like QKs, QJs maybe even hands like A2-A5s.

I do not have a coldcallig range here, not sure if it's a problem? I mean, playing these spots postflop can be quite tricky and we are dominated so often that coldcalling just doesn't make sense to me.


Not a big leak, you need someone who is folding enough to make it profitable but generally yes you should have a 4bet bluff here. Problem with using KQ however is if it's EV to flat then we shouldn't be using it to bluff as we have so many good 4bet bluffs in our range
Posted 8 years ago
Archinator:
TheVoice: Hi guys,

This is a golden opportunity to make a cold 4b bluff with some of our suited broadways like QKs, QJs maybe even hands like A2-A5s.

I do not have a coldcallig range here, not sure if it's a problem? I mean, playing these spots postflop can be quite tricky and we are dominated so often that coldcalling just doesn't make sense to me.


Not a big leak, you need someone who is folding enough to make it profitable but generally yes you should have a 4bet bluff here. Problem with using KQ however is if it's EV to flat then we shouldn't be using it to bluff as we have so many good 4bet bluffs in our range


Thanks for your reply, Archinator.

The main reason for me not having a cold calling range in this spot is basically the following:

if I were BU and saw BB coldcalling SB's 3b then...
1. I would flat with a pretty wide range of hands that have good implied odds
2. I would start 4betting aggressively to capitalise on the extra amount of money in the pot

So I imagine if BU is competent then BB will find himself in an extremely tough spot after routinely coldcalling SB's 3b with hands like KQ.

Might be a cop-out but this is basically the reason why I never coldcall SB's 3B in the BB. Not sure if it's okay tho...
Posted 8 years ago
I think I don't CC here with KQ even if it's suited, like a lot of people said it's a very good opportunity for a cold 4bet bluff and we're expecting plenty of better hands to fold here I believe, if we get 5bet it's an easy fold. CC just puts us in a bunch of awkward spots like this one.

On this flop we are never happy even if we fold or call. My decision here depends on my opponent and what I've seen him do or the stats I have on him, but remember that the BTN already folded so he isn't raising 3 way. This one is close and up to you but I'm nitty and would probably fold... Or call if I'm tilted and if I turn out to be right in the end, I'd think how good I am, and if I'm wrong I'd think how bad I am. Sorry for the rant. Laugh
Posted 8 years ago*
TheVoice:
Archinator:
TheVoice: Hi guys,

This is a golden opportunity to make a cold 4b bluff with some of our suited broadways like QKs, QJs maybe even hands like A2-A5s.

I do not have a coldcallig range here, not sure if it's a problem? I mean, playing these spots postflop can be quite tricky and we are dominated so often that coldcalling just doesn't make sense to me.


Not a big leak, you need someone who is folding enough to make it profitable but generally yes you should have a 4bet bluff here. Problem with using KQ however is if it's EV to flat then we shouldn't be using it to bluff as we have so many good 4bet bluffs in our range


Thanks for your reply, Archinator.

The main reason for me not having a cold calling range in this spot is basically the following:

if I were BU and saw BB coldcalling SB's 3b then...
1. I would flat with a pretty wide range of hands that have good implied odds
2. I would start 4betting aggressively to capitalise on the extra amount of money in the pot

So I imagine if BU is competent then BB will find himself in an extremely tough spot after routinely coldcalling SB's 3b with hands like KQ.

Might be a cop-out but this is basically the reason why I never coldcall SB's 3B in the BB. Not sure if it's okay tho...



All very good reasons which is why flatting makes this is a very tough spot to play profitably. It's one of those where if you can flat and play it profitably it makes your overall strategy a tiny bit better but if you flat unprofitably it makes your strategy a lot worse and you should just cold 4. But basically here I've decided to give it a go and learn using the forums how to play this spot. So short-term I'll lose money but long-term if I play well post-flop it should be profitable (see below). After feedback I think this is now an easy fold so we don't really lose much here.

To prevent number 1 we flat high suited cards that give his hands huge reverse implied odds.
To prevent number 2 we flat some monsters here and 5b bluff. However generally below 100nl opponents aren't good enough to make that play