NL10 QQ

Posted 8 years ago

Against UTG raise and call my decent raise size. I believe AK is in his range most definitely.
I'm not sure there's much I can do here. I'll never know where I am so I'm guessing it's a x/f.

Player 1(SB) $11.28 - VP:50 PFR:0 AF: W: STL:|100 3B:0|100 CB: N:-0.40 Hands:2
Me(BB) $10
Player 3(UTG) $18.08 - VP:50 PFR:50 AF:Inf. W:0| STL: 3B:0|0 CB:100| N:1.92 Hands:2

Player 4(CO) $11.45 - VP:50 PFR:50 AF: W: STL:100| 3B:0| CB: N:0.15 Hands:2
Player 5(BTN) $11.03 - VP:50 PFR:0 AF: W: STL:|100 3B:0|100 CB: N:-0.35 Hands:2


Pre Flop: Me(BB) with [Qc,Qs]
Player 3(UTG) raises 0.30,
Player 4(CO) folds,
Player 5(BTN) calls 0.30,
Player 1(SB) calls 0.25,
Me(BB) raises 1.40,
Player 3(UTG) calls 1.20,
Player 5(BTN) folds,
Player 1(SB) folds


Flop: (Td,Ks,2s)(2 players)
Pot - 3.60
Me(BB) checks,
Player 3(LP) bets 1.90,
Me(BB) ?
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Posted 8 years ago
I don't think I can fold here for one bet. Not loving a Kxx flop, but they are going to have enough bluffs here as well as value hands. I would call the flop and see a turn.

Turn kind of varies on what I do, if it's a brick and they bet out pretty big, I think I'm going to fold read less as I don't expect regs to go to be going crazy here.
Posted 8 years ago*
Against unknown utg I'd have to assume they ship it preflop with KK/AA. villain could have Kx or TT or whatever in utg range but given we hold QQ ourselves I'd be inclined to think they have a pocket pair up to JJ or AJs/AQs, something like that, which doesn't leave a huge amount of hands we're behind imo.
That being said I think we can call one street and see what happens.

I also think a cbet of say 30-35% would have been enough here to. People do tend to play fairly 'honest' in general in 3bet pots down here, but if you miss your cbet they'll often throw some chips out with anything to see if they can take it away. Reg types are especially prone to do it.
For example, would you chk aces or kings there or AK? I wouldn't nearly never v an unknown. So now we're capped and villain can try to bluff us off - or value bet of course! Smile

I hope that makes some sort of sense but hopefully some of the big guns will turn up and sort us out!

GL mate. Smile

Posted 8 years ago
I think I agree with Harvie, I'm not in love with it but I don't think we can fold on the flop just yet. I'm calling one street personally and proceed cautiously on the turn. We block a bunch of draws though so I might be in the wrong.
Posted 8 years ago
If we check call this and never check call AK or KK then you will be exploited massively OTT as our x/c range is going to be so weak. Given that and the fact I doubt you are checking sets or AK here I would advise you cbet and see what villain does. If he calls we can check and probably fold to any bet. But we get all his bluffs to fold and although that sounds silly, x/c x/f sucks if villain can bluff any decent ammount.

Also floats herd will be like JJ, Tx which check down to the river almost all the time. If villain calls the bets its fine to fold as we can cbet check with say TT as villain folds his 2nd pair hands and bets kx.
Posted 8 years ago
Bet it and see a turn card, fold if he raises or just check call but as other said your check calling range is going to be pretty weak so bet flop and see a turn. Not too happy about this situation though.
Posted 8 years ago
I think we just fold the flop. Seems very passive however we rarely get bluffed vs on these boards and our hand becomes very difficult to play on future streets.