35s, NL10

Posted 8 years ago

Is this standard when CO has a fold to 3bet 67% from CO?

Please also look at my post: https://www.pokervip.com/forum/general-discussion/ranges-exploitative

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Posted 8 years ago
In my opinion, 35s is too weak to 3-bet. I would like to have something like A2s because you still have some equity when you get called AND many better aces will fold.
Posted 8 years ago
Ye I would only say that this is a little optimistic. Thing is, we would like a hand that can play postflop if we do get called and we'll need to evaluate from OOP if we are good on a 3xx or 5xx board if we chk and villain bets ( how often will they do that?) ...or even if villain chks back. Of course, another problem is it's a gapper hand which flops less well than say 76ss which i would be happy to 3bet v a reg fairly often.

Also, if we are called and we're OOP, what is villain's postflop game like? Do they chk behind if we chk? Do they cbet 100% - very common on anonymous table, so do we call with our 'bit'? - and then chk behind turn or barrel perhaps? Very tough stuff when we hit a 'bit' of it like maybe a gutshot don't you think? Do we chk/r? Might be a good idea say witha gutshot on v some villains.

Basically, what I'm saying is to do this we need to know about villain except 'Folds to 3bet 70%, wooohooo 3bet!'

I like @TrueFriend 's idea but with the disagreement to, '...AND many better aces will fold.' Many aces will call at this level imo on the BU v blind 3bet. On the plus side, so will a lot of worse hands. Just take your time postflop is all and don't get too busy with Axo for example on an A high board.

Just be prepared to dump it if villain get's too excited is all.

I hope I didn't talk gibberish for you and I'll have a go at your link post but I'm not a coach as you can see, just my way is all.

Disclaimer: I'm a micro nit.
Posted 8 years ago
You can also pick hands like 76s, 9Ts or small pairs. My point is, that you will get enough decent bluffing hands so you do not need to bet 35s or stuff like that. Maybe you are right about people calling 3-bets with A7o or something like that.
Posted 8 years ago
I like your thinking here with the 3Bet and his high FT3B %, but I think TrueFriend said it best: you want to do it with hands that have (better) post flop equity in case you get called, especially when you're OOP. It's better with Axs because you have an A-blocker, but with 53s you don't have blockers. I would imagine if you have position on this guy and he's got a high FT3B stat, you can abuse this a bit wider because you have position and won't always be facing a decision whether to rep boards to try and get a fold.
Posted 8 years ago
If your opponent folds to more then 60% of 3bets you have a automatically profitable 3bet with any 2 cards exploitativly. Off course you would need a decent sample size to substantiate such a read. So assuming you do have this read over a good sample the 3bet is good.
Posted 8 years ago
Its too low i believe, probably sometimes against guys that fold to 3bet more than 70% im also 3betting a lot of really crapy hands, but answering your question, i dont believe is standard, and probably u could find hands like 86s 75s that can play better postflop.
Posted 8 years ago
What's the sample size? In theory it's a profitable 3bet, but I doubt you can be sure about villain's actual fold to 3bet tendency and there are so many better hands you could be making this play with that 3betting with 35s doesn't make that much of a sense in most cases.
Posted 8 years ago
I think this hand/line works better from the SB.

Like everyone is saying this will come down to having a huge sample size and knowing that this stat is fact.